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Deleuze's introduction includes the theme, “truth, time, and the falsifier”, and the dual faceted approach, discussions of six texts and students' own parallel research directions on Melville ( The Confidence Man ); Plato (specific dialogues); Nietzsche ( Twilight of the Idols and Beyond Good and Evil ); specific filmmakers “of the false” (e.g. Welles, Resnais, Robbe-Grillet); crystallography and its possible relations to philosophy; and the French New Novel. Deleuze asks three global questions: What is the strange relationship between the cinematographic image and time and the falsifier? Why is the falsifier a fundamental character from the cinema perspective? And what is the special relationship between cinema and the power of the false? Deleuze then reflects on the Classical distinction between true and false, noting that even if the false has no form, it does indeed have a power of action ( puissance ), defined as the indiscernibility of the real and the imaginary. Deleuze considers various facets of indiscernibility (cf. Robbe-Grillet & Resnais's film “Last Year at Marienbad” and Robbe-Grillet's commentary on the film in For a New Novel ), quickly introducing “the falsifier” as the “ideal viewer”, the one who constructs the indiscernibility of the real and the imaginary. Considering this “concretion” of real and imaginary (cf. Welles's “The Lady from Shanghai”), he proposes the obverse term to “organic” for the true, a “crystalline formation”. Finally, forecasting developments to come later in the seminar, Deleuze proposes that what one glimpses within the crystal is nothing other than aspects and accents of Time. [NB: See Chapter 6 of The Time-Image , “The powers of the false,” notably Melville, Nietzsche and Godard]
论电影、真理与时间:造假者,1983—1984
Sur Cinéma, vérité et temps : le faussaire, 1983-1984
第一讲,1983年11月8日(第45课)
1ère séance, 08 novembre 1983 (cours 45)
Now I'm caught up in legal considerations: can a faculty room be considered a public place? Yes, because anyone can go on, but in some regards, no, it isn't. [ Pause ] Is it a public service? There's something to be said—is there a lawyer in the house? [ Laughter ] An argument could be made. It's not clear whether it is a public place. [ Pause ] There are public places where smoking is allowed, places with ventilation, but it's not ventilated here. [ Laughter ] [ Pause ] I mentioned this before and I'll ask again, since unfortunately I can no longer handle a lot of smoke, I’ll ask anyone smoking to sit in the back half of the room. [ Pause ]
〔需说明:WebDeleuze 上标记为电影3研讨班(日期1983年11月2日)的第一讲,其实更接近于前一研讨班亦即电影2(1982年11月2日)的第一讲。在 WebDeleuze 上被列为第二讲的,才是第三届研讨班的第一讲。〕
[ Notons que la première séance de ce séminaire sur le Cinéma 3 à WebDeleuze (sous la date le 2 novembre 1983) correspond plutôt à la première séance du séminaire précédent, sur le Cinéma 2, le 2 novembre 1982. C'est la second séance à WebDeleuze qui correspond à la première séance du troisième séminaire ]
Several voices: [ Indistinct comments ]
此刻我呀,法律问题最让我着迷:我们能不能把一间大学教研室等同于一个公共场所?能,因为谁都可以进去;但从另一些角度看,又不能,不能。〔停顿〕这算不算一项公共服务?话说回来,这里难道就没有一位律师吗?〔笑〕这方面大有可说。很难说这里就是公共场所。〔停顿〕有些公共场所是允许吸烟的,是通风的公共场所,可这里并不通风。〔众笑〕〔停顿〕〔1:00〕我之前提过,现在再说一遍:很遗憾,我已经受不了太多烟味了,我请吸烟的人坐到教室的后半部分。〔停顿〕
Maintenant moi, les problèmes de droit me passionnent: est-ce qu'on peut assimiler une salle de faculté à un endroit publique? Oui, parce que tout le monde peut y entrer, mais à d'autres égards, non, non. [ Pause ] Est-ce que c'est un service publique? Il y a à dire, il n'y a pas un avocat ici? [ Rire ] Il y a à dire là-dessus. Il n'est pas sûr que ça soit un lieu publique. [ Pause ] Il y a des lieux publiques où il est permis de fumer, des lieux publiques aérés, là ce n'est pas aéré. [ Rires ] [ Pause ] [1 :00] J'ai proposé et je le redis bien, comme je ne peux plus, comme je ne peux plus, hélas, supporter beaucoup de fumée, je demande à ceux qui fument d'être dans la seconde moitié de la salle. [ Pause ]
Deleuze: But then… Next it'll be: Why don't you move to a big lecture hall? [ Laughter ] So, it's a new year. [ Pause ] What time is it? [ Pause ] I'm wondering whether we should start now or wait ten minutes, in case people show up late. Then again, I don't know where we would fit them. [ Laughter ] [ Pause ] Well, perhaps we'll start because… [ Pause ] Usually I start class, you know, as soon as I can, between 10:00 and 10:15—not like last year, at 10:30. Anyway. [ Pause ]
众人:〔听不清的说话声〕
Voix diverses : [ Propos inaudibles ]
Deleuze: I take issue with your argument about hygiene, because ultimately, if those with unhealthy life-choices endanger our well-being, it isn't the worst thing in the world.
德勒兹:你们那条卫生方面的论据让我很不自在,因为说到底,那些被不良嗜好攫住的人〔2:00〕把我们置于危险境地,这倒也不是绝对的坏事。
Deleuze : Votre argument hygiénique me gêne beaucoup, parce que après tout, si ceux qui sont saisis d'une passion malsaine [2 :00] nous mettent en situation de danger, ce n'est pas absolument mal.